organized by Glenmarie Temasya Suria RA
Time: 1:45pm
Date: 22/4/2012
A word of thanks to Rohaizal and Goh for calling for this meeting.
This meeting was called to order due to recent developments in the progress of the fencing. On the agenda were 2 key items:
1. The location of the perimeter fencing, especially the side adjacent to the new shoplots in front of BP Labs.
2. The location of the guard house in lieu of the fencing
Item 1 - Perimeter fencing.
I&P had started to dig holes into the ground to erect the fencing in line with the side walls of the corner units. This effectively "converted" the walls of the corner units into part of the perimeter fencing. Although we cannot speculate the reason for this, it has the following impact on our community:
a. Terminates the road at the end of the street for those using Jalan Jurubina, Jalan Askar and possibly Jalan Polis - depending on the location of the goardhouse/primary entrance. Residents will not have the flexibility of driving around the bend to access other roads and will need to do a 3-point turn when exiting.
b. This will hamper providers of public services like the garbage truck etc. and could could adversely affect the quality of service.
c. Potential for public nuisance - i.e. parking, noise etc. once the new shoplots are completed. The new shoplots are equipped with their own lanes and the road concern serves our community and should remain this way for convenience, peace and our general safety.
d. Although I&P has provided what appears to be anti-climb fencing, this does not extend to the corner unit walls which are easily scalable.
One party argued that the road concerned is a public road, but it was pointed out that all roads would come under the purview of MBSA anyway and if we were to set-up the fencing, it should be for the best interest of residents in our neighborhood who are the primary users of this road.
The RA also proposed planning for the fencing on the side facing the community hall to be extended into the walkway for similar reasons. It was added that although the playground is a public facility, it was necessary to prevent children from wandering onto the road. Outside users can access the playground via the guardhouse.
After clarification and exchange of views, it was decided by unanimous show of hands to revert to the original plan of having the fence between Temasya Suria and the shops beyond the side road, and on the opposing side facing the community hall to be erected on the sidewalk instead. This will be communicated to the developer as the expressed wish of the community.
Item 2 - Location of the Guardhouse
The RA proposed keeping the guardhouse in the current location as it would serve as added security for the families using the playground. This matter is also moot since item 1 clearly states the position of the perimeter fencing.
Conclusion:
The RA will communicate the views of the community to MBSA and the developer. A small working committee will be set-up to establish the cost of setting up the fencing at the 2 sides mentioned above for discussion at the next meeting.
The RA will call for a meeting within 2 weeks or earlier if they have enough information to move forward.
Note from the RA: Residents are encouraged to help raise awareness of this important project and to attend the next meeting in full force. Our effectiveness is only possible in numbers.
Thank you for the update jefe. This is a good effort and I for one am happy to support.
ReplyDeleteIf you will accomodate a question, I am curious why I&P will make such a decision on fencing without consulting the RA. If I understand correctly, this one short Chinese man claims to be in contact with I&P (I suppose he is part of the RA committee) - did he know that this was the plan of I&P? Why was this not communicated to us before the holes were bored into the ground - I went and had a look yesterday.
I find it difficult to understand why I&P would risk antagonising the majority of the community, many of whom are people of wealth and influence, for the sake of saving some money. Just basing on the success of the recent launch, I am inclined to believe this is not the case. For sure they will need some coaxing - but this apparent unilateral decision does not sound right.
My question is this: is there another agenda in play?
Hi anonymous,
ReplyDeleteSure, anyone is welcome to ask questions. Not sure if I have the answers... :)
For one, we cannot speculate if there is an "agenda in play". What I propose is that we work with verified information to ensure transparency which passes the burden of proof.
As I indicated, our effectiveness is possible only in numbers. Let us make it clear to the developer where we stand on this issue.
One matter of fact to point out, the person I believe you referred to is not a member of the RA committee. He has been helpful in the past in contribution in kind. I do not think he speaks for I&P and it wouldn't be correct to assume this.
I know I will sound like a broken record, but the RA needs your help, expertise and support. Can we unite towards this goal?
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteFurther to the meeting, Rohaizal has in fact met up with I&P and I believe that the results are positive.
I will get Rohaizal to post the results of his meeting on this blog.
I wish to confirm what Jeff has said in respect of the Chinese gentleman described above. He is not currently a member of the committee.
Regards,
Goh Keng Tat
Hi Goh,
DeleteI have had met Dicky of I & P on Monday 24th April 2012 at his Setiawangsa Office. And informed him what residents have agreed during our RA meeting.
He take note of that and will revised the plan accordingly and at the same time he will inform their management of the same. Then we can submit the plan to MBSA.
Regards.
rohaizal
Dear RA,
ReplyDeleteI was out this evening doing my jog and was informed that I&P has decided to retract and take back its fencing for the community !!!
Is this for real ?? How can this be ???
I also heard that the short Chinese man, who is not a RA committee, was responsible for asking I&P to retract the fencing. Can anyone confirm this??
Hi, let's not act on hearsay. All will be revealed in due time.
DeleteWho is this short Chinese man ?
ReplyDeleteI do not understand this ? At the recent RA meeting we all attended, we had 100% unanimous vote for the gating system. So who would oppose ? And why IP give then retract ? And if so, we should bring up the matter to IP.
ReplyDeleteDear anonymous, Kindly identify yourself in your post to avoid misunderstanding.
ReplyDeleteIn regard to the poll on how much we wish to contribute to the fencing project? It seems like i'm voting BLINDLY. Of course i wish to have a fence that are effective to deter intrusion and manageable by guard. In the meantime, it need to be beautiful to the whole community too. It must be reflective to our house value of RM2 Million.
Dear neighbours,
ReplyDeleteSorry was not in country but back now.
I spoke with Goh this morning and my advise is to avoid speculation - no matter what others may claim. Goh or Rohaizal will update us shortly.
On the matter of anonymous postings, I allowed this function because not everyone wants to be identified. As long as no one is being offensive or unreasonable, I see no reason to insist that everyone identify themselves. I hope you understand jimmy.
On the matter of the poll, it is not a formal exercise but will give us an idea where everyone stands on this issue. Once the options are known, we will take a more appropriate referendum.
Chill people. We haven't run out of options and as long as we remain united, we can make things happen.
Dear Residents,
ReplyDeleteAfter the meeting the RA received a letter from I&P stating that they were suspending work on the fencing due to complaints and threats by residents to report any fencing activity to MBSA.
Naturally, we were shocked to receive such a letter and we sought clarification from I&P yesterday at their HQ in Setiawangsa.
In their explanation, the said that the letter was written because the residents from the corner lots had objected to the fence being attached to their wall (as proposed by I&P in the plan shown to the residents during the meeting).
The letter was not written in response to the result of the RA meeting.
I&P assured us that it is not their intention to withdraw their offer for fencing. They have also told the RA to disregard their letter.
On a more positive note, I&P are proceeding to draw the plancs for fencing in accordance to our wishes but the installation of the same is still subject to 2 issues namely :-
(a) MBSA approval; and
(b) I&P's budget approval.
Lets work together towards achieving our common goal.
Regards,
Goh Keng Tat
Dear Mr Jefe & everyone else,
ReplyDeleteIt is better not to allow unregistered/anonymous user to post. This will prevent any misunderstanding in future. This is not a big community and by having properly identify user will bring benefit in the long term. Frankly, I only wish to discuss all Temasya matter with Temasya member only.
Hello Jimmyay,
ReplyDeleteWhile I understand where you are coming from but even if I agree, it is not as easy as you say. Allow me to explain... from a practical standpoint, how do we authenticate if someone claims to be a resident?
I also created this blog for future residents, potential buyers etc. and any official communication should be via email.
regards
Mr Jefe,
ReplyDeleteI respect your blog. Case close. Just a simple reminder :
A Guide to Netiquette:
"Don't say online what you're not prepared to say face to face.
Do not hide behind the anonymity of the net......"
Dear jimmyay,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments. I try to make sure this is not my blog although I am the one updating this. Once a new committee is in place, I will pass on the management of the blog to someone new. It is meant to be the community's blog.
If as it turns out, the community elect to make this a closed blog, then it shall be.
regards
Short chinese man praying hard that the current temporary wooden fences will be brought down soon. Just wait and see folks ...
ReplyDeleteCuriously, why is that the case? I see no reason for a resident in Temasya to want to do this unless there is some vested interest in such a move. I too have heard a lot about this and wonder if this one person is indeed so influential as to inconvenience us all?
ReplyDeleteAny new updates? About security guard? We have only 3 mths to decide.
ReplyDeleteRecently saw the wooden fence worn out gradually, not sure it is due to human intervention or natural forces...
ReplyDeleteAnyway, look forward to receive positive feedback and outcome with regards to the approval and costing and of course funding matters.
As mentioned in the previous meeting, no house is <RM1m here and I trust everyone should be happy to pay even more than 3,000, if it benefit us in the long run.
By the way, I am expecting the newsletter/notice on the accuont detail and how can we pay the RM300 plus post-payment notification/proof of payment related matters.
Do update.
Thanks.
Just a quick note as I have been busy at work. The team has been meeting up with MBSA but no approval yet to-date. I understand that there are rum ours abounding about the fencing but without any official confirmation, I'd rather not comment.
ReplyDeleteSuffice to say, Rohaizal, Goh and a couple of kind neighbours are working on the issues at hand.